I've been bothered, and I suppose curious, for awhile about people who claim to be Christian and yet passionately carry around signs like this:
hateful signs, gay bashing, 9/11, God
And look, she's smiling.  God loves a joyful hater...or something like that.  It's almost as if they can't be bothered with the actual words of Jesus.  You know, pesky little sayings that get in the way of genuine American hatred.  Things like, "Love your neighbor as yourself" and "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

The cognitive dissonance it takes to both claim to be a Christian and gleefully hold up such hateful signs is astounding.  "You are doomed to hell! God hates you!...but I love you because you're my neighbor.  Oh, and have a nice day."

Then there are the nuts that assign violent acts to God as some sort of retributive act for the 'sins' of those that aren't as loved by God as they are:
hateful signs, God, violence, retrobution
Yes folks, not only does the Prince of Peace hate 'fags,' but he gets his Daddy to kill a disproportionate number of the poor along the gulf coast as well as honorable soldiers to show us just how bad it really is...because that's just how God rolls (can you hear the sarcasm yet?).  Or it could be that we all just look alike to God - kinda' like the way we see ants.  In that case, it would only follow that the way God's anger is actualized is somewhat blind and discriminatory.  (Because if there is one thing Jesus taught us it is how unruly God is, prone to unfair, prejudicial treatment of the children of God - particularly the one's that aren't like 'us.')

I guess it's that kind of thinking like that leads so many Christians to get all worked up over the thought of getting to go vigilantly in the name of God.
hateful sign, violence
After all, if God is a violent God and we are the children of God, created in God's image, it only makes sense that from time to time we should pull out weapons of destruction and aim them randomly at those who don't look like us  or at least threaten to - after all, they all look the same, right?

What's the point to this post? Well, it's mostly just a rant because I'm tired of it.  I'm tired of people trying to making God look more like them rather than trying to make themselves look more like God.  I'm tired of people acting like Christianity is a members only club that has its privileges rather than a peaceable kingdom that has its responsibilities.  I'm tired of people metaphorically putting the smoking gun in the hands of God to justify their own hatred.

I'm tired of it because it is not what God wants; it is not what Jesus taught us; it is not who the Spirit calls us to be.  And I AM MAD about it!

I guess I need to take a lesson from those holding the signs in these pictures and "hate the sign but love the signer."
 


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Kathy (Rabideau) Kampfer
10/25/2010 10:57

How do you respond to such hate? I'm confounded by it and though I shouldn't be, am always surprised at how much effort they put into it and how much pleasure it seems to give them. Sad!

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10/25/2010 11:00

Kathy, I completely understand. I feel that same way. It is so antithetical to Christianity, I don't even know how to respond. Like I said, I guess they'd tell us to try to, "hate the sign and love the signer."

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Richard
10/25/2010 13:21

As a liberal Christian, it's hard to understand the hateful nature of some conservative Christians. But, I think it's important to note that these people are from the Westboro Baptist Church, and are on their own level of crazy. Even the majority of right wing, conservative Christians don't agree with their extremist attitudes.

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10/25/2010 13:34

Richard that's true. I used some of the most extreme to make a point, but one of the pictures is from a tea party rally and similar (not as extreme) signs are used by other conservative Christian and they equally miss the Gospel message. But still, point taken.

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10/25/2010 13:51

The alarmingly distorted thinking behind such people (quick DNA check: huh! whaddaya know! they actually qualify as "people") is supposed to follow the line of biblical prophets, which they think goes like this: (1) the nation is headed to hell in a handbasket: (2) they apparently won't listen to anything else, so we have to shout a warning right in their faces; (3) all our talk of gloom/doom/judgment should hopefully scare them to turn back to God, who really does love them.

Sounds okay on paper --- the only thing is, (1) the prophets' warnings usually had to do with gross injustice and for society failing to love their neighbors, not "fag sin" (or any other alleged "specialty iniquity"); and (2) they liberally seasoned their words with genuine appeals from a loving and compassionate God, reminders of his tender care for them and heartbreak over things that caused them suffering, and promises of his unfailing compassion and grace. So the doom/gloom really was mostly confined to outrage over how people treated one another (which any just persons ought to agree with --- that's what our civil rights movement was about), and the real message was always one of hope, love, grace, and compassion.

ALL those points are missing from the rants of the "God Hates [your name here]" crew. They think they're walking in the footsteps of the prophets; but all they're doing is trolling neighborhoods in bad Halloween costumes, and scaring or offending people. ("Mom, what are those horrible people supposed to be dressed as?" "I think they're supposed to be prophets, like in the Bible --- but they look more like some kind of deranged alien zombies.") And yet, DNA analysis will prove that they are, intrestingly enough, actual human beings.

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10/25/2010 14:04

Roger - here's to hoping you'll guest blog from time to time. We don't pay....but the work is it's own reward?

(maybe we will dump the current sub-title "...questioning the answers..." and go with "the posts of prophets"... nah, maybe not...)

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Dawn R. Seim
10/25/2010 17:29

Do I have your permission to email this far and wide to my "conservative" Christian friends not on facebook? If so, anyone know how I could do this? Thank you!

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10/25/2010 17:54

Dawn, yes you do. As a matter of fact, THANK YOU.

At the bottom of the post the is a share symbol (the strange look 'V' on it's side) click it and you will see an option for emailing it. You can also click the Facebook button at the bottom of the article and share it directly on your FB wall.

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Jim O'Gara
10/25/2010 21:01

Ironically enough, it is through our mutual hatred of Westover Baptist Church that some of my ultra conservative family members (the military members) and I agree on some things. WBC will even picket Jewish organizations, so my Jewish sister in law in Richmond has taken part in some demonstrations against them.

It seems it can be one thing we all agree upon.

And while I really dislike using the word hatred, as I hate something, I have no ethical problems using it towards the WBC. My loathing for their actions, philosophy and such is about the same as my loathing for camel crickets.

And that is also another sign that I still have a long way to go towards being a Master. ;-)

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10/25/2010 21:07

I guess WBC really are bringing people together, just not in the way they had hoped.

I still say hate the sign love the signer...but you just might win me over on the camel cricket thing.

Thanks for adding to the conversation Jim!

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Dr. Robb Grant
10/26/2010 08:29

For sure, hatred is not a Godly attribute, and, when we use, or, more correctly, 'get used' by hatred, (which is always the case, by the way, in my experience), it is not the way of Jesus. However, it is useful to point out that God does hate sin. No doubt about it, says so many times in scripture. So, when we allow gays to marry, and even give them rights as if they were not in sin, it definately angers God. God is definately against the sin of man plus man, and woman plus woman in sexual relationships of any kind!

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10/26/2010 12:23

Dr. Grant,
I thnk we can agree that God does not hate living beings. We will have to agree to disagree on homosexuality definitively being a sin or being something into which the Bible puts much time or consideration. Let's fix the things with which Jesus was particularly concerned (like abuse of power, the pursuit of worldly valuables and values, unloving attitudes, etc) and then I'll be glad to move on to the things that get cursory mentions (like homosexuality, eating shellfish and stoning disobediant children)...come to think of it, Jesus didn't mention those. At any rate, bigger fish to fry if we hope to realize God's peaceable kingdom.

Thanks for reading and for your comment.

PEACE!

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Mad Cat
10/26/2010 15:08

I was a conservative Christian, now I'm just a believer. I find the hatred on the right for "sinners" and the desire to rob the rich on the left equally comprehensible. Both came from the same place: traditions of men. We in the western church have no clue just how corrupted the church has become, nor do we even know what the 1st century church looked like. (Hint hint, it doesn't look like anything you've ever seen, especially the crap displayed in the pics)
Until we (the church) free ourselves from tradition and human doctrines that came out of the dark ages, expect this to (sadly) continue.

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10/26/2010 15:43

Mad Cat, I suspect we won't agree on everything, but it does sound like we both have problems with how worshiping tradition and human inspired doctrine lead us astray.
Thanks for reading and for your comment.

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Denise
10/27/2010 00:45

This post says everything I've said for years, although much more eloquently, but in much the same wry manner. I've long since stopped attending church as I was simply unable to reconcile the behavior I saw around me with what I believe Christianity to be. I stumbled upon this post through a series of happenstance clicks within Facebook and am so glad I did -or perhaps I was meant to see it! ;)

Thanks!

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10/27/2010 06:43

Denise, so glad your clicks brought you this way. While it does seem that a large number of churches are missing the mark, I can't help but have hope because of how many churches are standing up and saying, "they do not speak for us." Drop by The God Article on Facebook and you'll find links to a number of groups who are part of this growing movement within Christianity.
PEACE!

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Kara
11/22/2010 22:51

Your article gives me hope for religion of Christianity. I wish there were more Christians like you. It's intolerance and hatred that have driven me from the church. Thank you for your blog.

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11/23/2010 13:13

Kara,
Thanks for taking the time to give my blog a read. Also thanks for your kind words of encouragement.

I believe there is a re emergence happening in the church. It is a direct response to what some many churches have become.

The Christian Left, Progressive Christians, are reclaiming the message of love, grace and hospitality.

I hope that one day, people will find that (once again) the church is a safe haven for ALL people.

PEACE!

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12/09/2010 10:40

Very appropriate and timely article Mark. I agree with you. It might comfort everyone to know that Mr. Phelps' one son broke away from Westboro Baptist and is now making speeches and giving interviews against what his father and Westboro are doing. I saw a video of an interview with his son. When the host asked him what drove his father to act the way he did, he replied, "Dad just hates everybody". A teenage daughter of another member also left the church. I was very troubled and disturbed when I heard that this group was protesting at Elisabeth Edwards' funeral. I pray that somehow not one jot or tittle of their diabolical message will be heard by the Edwards family, and that they can say goodbye to Elisabeth in peace.

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12/09/2010 10:48

Thanks for the reminder about his son Keith. It is important to remember that seeds of hate don't always take root.

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Jill Roe
12/09/2010 15:33

You can't give up on church because of people like those that carry signs and hate in the name of GOD. They are not Christians. God is love. He doesn't hate anyone. I'm sure he is saddened by many things tho. Like when those who claim to know him spew hatred and insanity like these folks do. Cliche is really not called for here, but I have heard it said that "going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car"

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12/09/2010 15:36

Thanks Jill...and oh, so true.

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Greg
12/09/2010 22:37

Your intentions are good but this blog post seems a bit off the mark. The first photo is woman from Westboro Baptist Church, which are the same idiots in the second pair of photos. These are not Christians, they don't represent Christianity. They're scam artists trying to drum up business for their legal practice. The media referring to them and their actions as Christian does a disservice to all people of faith.

The final photo is, I believe, taken from the Glenn Beck rally in Washington. Slapping his photo on your blog and claiming he is a Christian, or represents Christianity seems a bit lame.

For the record I'm not a Christian and don't beleive in supernatural beings of any denomination.

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12/10/2010 11:58

Greg, thanks for your thoughts. I'm quite aware of where the pics are from...each claims to be Christian.

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Jeff Trent
03/02/2011 18:32

Mark, First off I would like to say thank you for writing this article. I am an athiest but it fills me with hope when I see a Christian "love thy neighbor". It really gives me joy to see people like the way I think their Christ would like them to live. To "walk it like they talk it" I guess. Anyway, thank you. Good luck to you.

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Karen Ball
03/15/2011 17:29

Mark: Thank you for your article. There are others who are working to make strong statements about the fundamentalists religion "hijacking" the various religious denominations.

I'm a member of an organization called Soulforce that is working to persistently, non-violently, challenge the negative messages coming from fundamentalist groups. In our actions we have encountered lots of the Westboro folks and we pray for their education and understanding.

Take a look at www.Soulforce.org

Thanks, Karen

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